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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 22, 2011 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

The "solo" you guys are talking about is one minute long and on the version in question he fumble fingers his way through it and coming out sings the wrong verse,the entire song contains timing issues,how could this possibly be the best version of any time span.Is it that he just has to play fast and Phil goes boom= great version,I prefer when they played it with skill and nuance,got the words right,had some proper piano and Bob didn't annoy me with his grating sound and then lame slide,I'll live without a blistering solo on Brown Eyed.

It is astounding that you could consider this first set some of the "most on playing you have ever heard from the Dead".Would you be so kind as to point out where this "on playing" takes place during the set that contained :
Cold Rain
C.C. Rider
Dire Wolf
Me and My Uncle
Big River
Brown Eyed (we already this was a killer,so skip it)
Minglewood
Friend of the Devil
Looks Like Rain
Alabama Getaway
Promised Land

Those 83' versions are way to fast for my liking BD,I feel they just butchered their country catalog in the 80's.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Dec 23, 2011 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

I completely agree with jer's assessment of DP5, and especially of BEW. I'll take a BEW from 4/14/72, 4/1/72, 8/24/71, 2/24/74, or 5/25/74 (just to name a few) over any '79 or '83 version 9 times out of 10.

On occasion, I crave the slightly longer solos. However, those solos aren't even that much longer, and they usually come at the price of poor vocals and shitty sounding instruments. I do really enjoy some versions from '77 though such as 11/4, 5/11, 5/25, and 5/8, among some others. They really nailed that song in '77, and you won't find the poor vocals that became more prevalent with each passing year.

The pre-hiatus versions have a beauty to them that was lost with the faster tempo versions, and for me the song worked best in its early years. That being said, 6/24/83, 9/2/83, and 9/8/83 are all amazing for later versions.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Dec 23, 2011 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

thats surprising deniro. I figured you would be siding with me on this one. I think that extra measure is what really does it for me. Sure its only 20 more seconds or w.e, but i sure do enjoy it. Those early BEWs definitely have a stronger country vibe, like jack straw had early on that they lost as the years went on. Though I think J straw and BEW got better with the jam built up.

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 23, 2011 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

That's probably why we disagree

Early 70's dead, while I listen too it, ihas country twinge for me.
I don't like country music. Do you know at Guantanamo bay they were experimenting with using repetetive music as a form of punishment. The only type if music that would elicit a negative response was country, the prisoners would tell them anything! instead of listening.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 23, 2011 11:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

I just realized that I had you confused with someone else or I would not have wasted my time responding to your post.I can't see any reason to discuss any kind of music with someone who would say something so ignorant as to not liking an entire genre of music and then comparing it to torture,and you also one time stated that Stella Blue reached it's peak between 82'-84' which is certainly reason enough not to discuss GD music with you.

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 23, 2011 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

I agree,

I Love those stella blues from 82-84
Have you listened to 6-26-84?

A classic

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Dec 23, 2011 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1979 Help!

how you dont think that is a really well played version of BEW is beyond me. You've given your reasons, but if thats jerry fumbling through a solo, i wonder what you think of him as a guitarist. W.e, im just grateful to be talking about the dead.

The CRS is killer, MAMU > Big River. Dire wolf. The LLR is pretty solid, I've heard better. Like you said the FOTD is quite nice. Even the bama getaway is good. Promised land. So most of the first set.